Content Karma Catches Up to Reddit In Its Fight with Anthropic – ryan
In the fast-evolving World of Generation AI, a new Kind of Arms breed is underway, one that has mes to do with gpus and more to do with date. And reddit, once a renegade darling of the Internet, Is Now Learning Just How Vulnerable Its Own Data Can.
The Company’s Lawsuit Against He Startup Anthropic, Filed on Wednesday in Superior Court in San Francisco, Accuses the Claude Macker of illegally Scraping Redit Content to Train Models. But this Lawsuit Invites A Question Reddit May Not Want to Ask Too Loudly: is this really data, or just karmic symmetry?
Reddit’s Business Model: Do Content Glass House?
Reddit’s Value Proposion Has Long Been About Community, What It Calls “Authentic Conversation.” Much of that authenticity is built on use-contribted content that, ironically, offten originates Elsewhere. Reddit users share news articles, images, and other copyrighted materials, SOMEST WITH PROPER ATTRRITBATION AND CERTAINLY WITHEMENT. USSERS POST This Content Freely, Reddit MONTIALIES IT THRAGH ADS, and LITTLE OF THAT VALUE FLOWS BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CREATORS.
This Practice was noted by my former business insider Colleague julie bort before redddit’s ipo in 2024.
“Journists like myself have watched as reddit uses have posted copies of our work on the platform, in violation of copyright laws, with moderators looking the Other Way,” She Wrote.
Investors must be prepy Concerned About the Value of Redddit’s Content Being AWAY by Giant He Models, Bort Added at the Time. “In the Words of Taylor Swift, ‘Karma’s Gonna Track You Down.’ ‘
Pot, Meet Kettle
Redddit’s MONATIZATION STRIGHT IN PART ON HOSTING CONTENT FROM AROUND The web without paying for it, calling into the ethics of its data economy. Now, Reddit is Suing Anthropic for Doing What Some Might See A More Automated Version of Reddit’s Own Game: Collecting Free Content from the Web and Monetizing it.
In its complaint, reddit alleges that anthropic scraped its platform in violation of the site User Agreement and Robots.txt File, Ignorating Technical and Legal Boundaries Designed to Protect Reddit’s Commercial Value. The Lawsuit hinges on the idea that reddit deserves to be compresaited for use of its, especilantly as it is now he adds to that through licenses such as it is signed with google and openai.
In the current he gold rush, platforms are racing to carve out paywalls around their data, whereer or not they respectted simillar bondaries in the past. The Truth Is, We’re in an Era where Copyright Law is Barely Enforceable at Internet Scale, and Data – Once It Hits the Open Web – Treat to Be Treated As Fair Game Until Someone Says Otherwise. (And and that, The Copyright Lawyers have yet to show real results).
The Irony of Content “Ownership”
Reddit Thinks Its or at Least Controls The Data Created by Its USSERS. But Unlike Publishers or Professional Content Creators, Reddit Doesn’t Pay users, Verify Original, or License Incoming Materials. It is essentially trying to exercise ip rights it May Never Have Quite Earned.
I Asked Reddit All About This. A a spokesperson for the Company Said “there are a number a number of misunderestandings here,” but didn’t elaborate late on wednesday. (One Possibity: Reddit Argted in the Complaint That is More About the Privacy of Its’ Date). The Company Declined to Comment Further on Thursday.
An Anthropic Spokesperson Said, “We Disagree with Reddit’s Claims and Will Defend ourselves Vigorously.”
This suit more than a legal maneuver. It ‘s referendum on who gets to claim ownership in the data economy, especilly we are borrowing from Everyone Else. If Reddit Wins, It May Crack Open A New Revenue Stream for Creators and Companies that Produce or Host Content. But if it loises, it mayself on the work of the same date-for-for-normalize normalize.
Either way, Karma May have finally come for reddit.