Watch The New Yorker Pageant | Pete Buttigieg Discusses America’s Disaster of Belonging | The New Yorker Video


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[light upbeat music]

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– Sensitive query, you are sitting right here

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on Sixty-third and Central Park West

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at The New Yorker Pageant, for God’s sake.

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The red-hot epicenter of anyone’s nightmare someplace.

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[audience laughing]

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What accounts for this horrendous polarization

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during which Sixty-third and Central Park West can barely perceive

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rural Indiana, say, or every other—

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numerous different locations that one may identify?

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As a result of it’s markedly deeper than 1968.

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It is markedly deeper than every thing we find out about,

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even a number of the worst flash factors in American historical past,

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actually at first of the 20 th century.

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– Proper now, there are numerous strains being drawn

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about who will get to be American.

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And it speaks to a much bigger disaster

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of belonging on this nation.

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My candidacy in some ways

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is a response to that disaster of belonging.

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Now numerous it’s what’s been perpetrated

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by right-wing politics, and definitely

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by the present President, proper.

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So clearly telling individuals they do not belong

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based mostly on gender id or sexual orientation,

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or faith, or nation of origin, or race,

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gender, you identify it.

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However there are different dimensions of this seek for belonging

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that I believe are actually inflicting a degree of ache

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that deserves to be acknowledged

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in rural America, in locations like the economic Midwest.

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And that craving for belonging can both be

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the factor that divides us, as a result of we discover belonging

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in no matter tribe we align with

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after which simply get belonging out of preventing others,

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which is how numerous preventing works on the earth.

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Or we faucet into one thing deeper,

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which is the truth that it isn’t that completely different,

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that the nervousness of a sheet metallic employee

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in St. Joe County, Indiana, who used to rely

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on a sure function within the economic system—

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– But when deindustrialization, for one factor,

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is a brutal actuality,

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what do you say to that particular person?

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What do you say to these cities which were hollowed out,

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and cities, as properly?

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– Properly, here is what we’re doing in South Bend.

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It is robust in a spot like South Bend.

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I am unsure if of us know this,

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the per-capita revenue in our metropolis

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simply went above twenty thousand {dollars} for the primary time in a very long time.

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And so we’re dwelling—

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– Twenty thousand {dollars} is per capita revenue in South Bend?

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– That is proper, yeah.

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So we have been dwelling this

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ever because the factories closed within the sixties.

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And what’s working for us, clearly I may

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discuss by means of the half about how we’re creating new jobs

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in numerous industries, however equally necessary

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is that we’ve labored to construct a way of id

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round being a part of South Bend.

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Issues that—stuff I used to hate as a mayor,

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‘trigger I solely cared about coverage stuff.

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I by no means would have thought that one of many issues

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I would spend numerous time on was

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creating a brand new metropolis flag, for instance.

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That was precisely the sort of symbolic stuff

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I did not care about.

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However we’ve created a way of what it means

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to be in our neighborhood.

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And the rationale that is so necessary

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is that your job isn’t just a supply of revenue.

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It’s a supply of neighborhood, a supply of id,

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and a supply of function.

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Now if you do not have some supply of these issues,

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one thing ugly will fill the void.

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One thing ugly like substance use,

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or one thing ugly like white nationalism.

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However there are different methods to construct up that sense of belonging,

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and a few of them may sound conservative,

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‘trigger they could should do with neighborhood, or religion,

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however I believe are very wholesome.

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And a few of them can be nationwide.

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It is why I believe nationwide service, for instance,

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must be excessive on the agenda

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and why I am making it a giant a part of my marketing campaign.

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Something that offers us a way

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of getting one thing in widespread.

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It is why my local weather plan—in fact I believe

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that the technical dimensions

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of my local weather plan are the perfect,

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however all of them are excellent technically.

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The actually necessary factor about my local weather plan

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is that it recruits of us like farmers

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to be a part of the answer.

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As a result of if we’re all a part of this nationwide mission,

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then we arise taller and we’ve this sort of glue

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that brings us collectively and a unique sort of propulsion.

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I led the sector in proposing democratic reforms

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that to this present day some candidates

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supposedly on my left have not embraced.

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I additionally am a candidate who believes

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that Medicare for All will not be as engaging

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as Medicare of All Who Need It that offers individuals the selection.

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So a kind of you may say places me on the middle.

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One other one places me additional out.

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There’s a place on criminal-justice reform

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that not solely I and fellow Democrats maintain,

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however some conservatives and libertarians

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are beginning to embrace.

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And so we’re dwelling by means of an actual scrambling

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of a few of these ideological labels

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and I believe that is a wholesome factor.

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– Can I soar in on Medicare for All

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versus Medicare for All Who Need It?

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It appears axiomatic that should you go together with Medicare

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for All Who Need It, you can not have Medicare for All,

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that the maths is not going to work out.

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And I completely perceive the purpose

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that you’ve got, what’s it, 100 and fifty million individuals

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which are on non-public insurance coverage now

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and sure, actually at first,

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they are not gonna wanna leap out of it into the unknown.

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That is the dilemma, actually, that Elizabeth Warren

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or Bernie Sanders faces within the argument.

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The dilemma that you simply face, it appears to me,

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is that Medicare for All Who Need It

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can come off to some audiences as a flowery approach

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of getting your cake and eat it, too, when you’ll be able to’t.

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[audience laughing] – As a result of if

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sufficient individuals do not wanna be concerned in Medicare for All,

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will the funding be there? Will or not it’s satisfactory

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to have Medicare for individuals who need it?

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– Yeah, I imply that is how public alternate options work.

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They create a public different

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that the non-public sector is then pressured to compete with.

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We speak about this like healthcare is the one place

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we have ever contemplated a public different,

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however really issues like web service suppliers—

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my fellow-mayors have been doing it.

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And it is outstanding what occurs within the non-public sector

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when you could have a public problem.

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The best way I come at it, I assume, is simply rooted

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in a sure humility about what is going on to occur.

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As a result of considered one of two issues will occur.

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Both there actually isn’t any non-public possibility

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that is nearly as good as the general public one we’re gonna create,

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which implies everyone migrates to it

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and fairly quickly it is Medicare for All.

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Or some non-public plans are nonetheless higher,

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during which case we’re gonna be actually glad

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we did not command the American individuals

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to desert them whether or not they wished to or not.

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And I am impartial on which a kind of outcomes occurs,

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‘trigger it isn’t—the core precept for me

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will not be whether or not or not the federal government

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is your health-insurance supplier.

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The core precept for me is that you simply get coated

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by hook or by crook.

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That is what Medicare for All Who Need It entails.

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– You’ve got acquired the controversy developing.

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[audience applauding]

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I assumed you probably did extraordinarily properly

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It was sort of a outstanding factor to observe,

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perhaps even an unimaginable occasion X years in the past.

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You have got a debate developing

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and also you’re within the midst of what I’ve at all times thought

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is a reasonably cockeyed course of.

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The best way we get a democratic nominee

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by means of the route of Iowa, New Hampshire,

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and all these steps and steak fries and all the remainder.

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A few of it is lovely, a few of it is inspiring—

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– The steak fry actually is a gorgeous factor, although.

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– Yeah. [audience laughing]

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The deep-fried doughnut is superb, too.

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However how do you break by means of?

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As a result of your polling is the place it’s.

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It is a crowded area.

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A few of it is dynamic. A few of it isn’t.

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How do you break by means of?

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What is the situation?

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– So when it comes to breaking by means of,

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I’ve superior previous roughly twenty of my opponents,

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which isn’t unhealthy for anyone

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no one had heard of in January.

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[audience applauding] – Whoo!

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– There are, admittedly, a couple of extra large hills to climb.

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[audience laughing]

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Though I might additionally add that the place I’m proper now

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within the combine is roughly the place the eventual nominee

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virtually at all times has been within the yr earlier than the vote,

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if historical past is any information.

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And I believe the place that is gonna shake out

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is should you actually do need the candidate

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with probably the most years of Washington expertise,

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probably the most acquainted face doable,

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you then’ve acquired your selection.

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And if you need probably the most ideologically conventionally

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left candidate you will get, you then’ve acquired your selection.

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Most Democrats I discuss to are on the lookout for one thing else.

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And that is the place I are available.



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